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Tuesday, August 25, 2009

Troubling Things Mets' Authorities are Saying about Santana Injury

The Mets got relatively good news on Santana. But good news has a way of going bad around here, so I don't know what to make of promises he'll return for 2010.

Ted Berg relates this nugget, via Sherman:

Joel Sherman of the NY Post asked Minaya why he continued to let Santana start if he’s been hurting since the All-Star Break and skipping his side sessions.

Minaya responded that that’s why they’re shutting him down now. “Up until his last start, it was something that he was able to pitch with. After his last start, he said this to us, and we are, as you say, wisely shutting him down.”

From the report (I've highlighted the parts that make me go batshit):

"He never really complained until that last game," Mets manager Jerry Manuel said. "It was manageable, and he managed it very well until he mentioned it. And then he said, 'Well, let's make sure, let's take a look.'"

The Mets, however, admitted Tuesday that they had known about the bone chips in Santana's elbow as far back as the All-Star break, when Santana underwent a similar examination. Because Santana felt no pain at that time, and because the chips were not in a "dangerous area," the team opted to let Santana pitch -- despite the fact that both his velocity and control were suffering.

Even Manuel said he was unaware of the scope of the situation until Santana began complaining after his most recent start.

"It really didn't bother him," pitching coach Dan Warthen said. "He was able to pitch a couple of different times. The last few, you could see the velocity going down and you're starting to concern yourself. Johan never ever says anything about his own physical pain, but he finally came clean and said, 'This thing is kind of bugging me.'"

The pain, Warthen said, was unrelated to the elbow discomfort Santana felt in Spring Training, when the Mets scheduled an MRI but never followed through with it. When asked about the relation between that issue -- which threatened Santana's Opening Day start -- and the left-hander's current woes, Minaya said he could not recall Santana's Spring Training health problems. Minaya also did not know what Santana's All-Star break examination had revealed.


Remember, Omar Minaya had his contract re-upped by the Wontpons in the middle of a collapse last year. The Mets themselves are not being contracted. He is not desperate to protect his GM job (as he should be). Somebody explain to me why he'd risk Johan Santana's health in the beginning of the ace's contract??!!??

Who are these idiots? You couldn't better destroy a team with bad decisions if you tried. There really is no imaginable reason why Omar Minaya should continue to run this franchise.



  • At 3:45 AM, Anonymous jdon said…

    The Won'tpons are communist agents sent to America to destroy baseball as we know it. Because the mets do not do baseball as we know it.

  • At 9:26 AM, Blogger metsfanincincy said…

    Ahh, IM Forme, but there is an imaginable reason for Omar to run this team. Your name just has to be Steve Phillips to understand it. Ol' Steve's not looking quite as bad now, is he?

  • At 10:42 AM, Anonymous jdon said…

    Des anybody here believe that a medical professional does not recommend surgery the minute he sees bone chips? That is what medical professionals do. Then non-professional doofuses (doofi?) ask if someone can hurt themselves further by pitching longer for a team that is going down the toilet. The medical professional indubitably answers that there is always that possibility (CYA). He has to. He cannot say no. When the boobs in charge tell you that they were told that it could not get worse, they really mean that they asked for 14 scenarios that could possibly happen and that was one of them. Doctors value their reputations, after all. Then the boob who signed ollie to a 36 million dollar contract takes your 140 million dollar pitcher and continues to pitch him in meaningless games--with the full cooperation of your idiot manager. Why? Because they fear for their jobs and the player told them that he wanted to pitch. Oh, the player wanted to pitch. Did the player also want to pay himself his salary? If I am Jeffie the Make Believe Owner I get a gun and hunt these two jabonis down. Maybe I don't shoot them, but I tell them if they are in town after noon tomorrow it is iopen season. But that is just me.

  • At 11:23 AM, Blogger I.M. Forme said…

    doctors that value their reps will probably think twice about affiliating with the Shmets now, whereas doctors who like to work and make a lot of money will no doubt try to get the Mets account.

    hmm Minaya's blunders casting Stevo in a better light? I'd a said you were insane a few months ago. But now...

  • At 8:41 PM, Anonymous cver said…

    It's funny how most rabid Met fans remember and grimace at the thought of this past spring's decision to not seek an MRI on Johann and how the man in charge Mr. Disgrace Minaya says he doesn't recall. I've been in CA and incidentally, Mr. IMFM, I was in your hood, but no way to get ahold of you (at a Cubs game at Dodger Stadium). It does do the soul good to see ol' Poopyface back in Flushing in a non-Mets uniform. At this point, that's what it takes to get any excitement, since this season has been such a disgrace. And while I was barely paying attention during my vacation, Wright gets hit in the head and Santana has surgery - that's just in the course of 4 weeks. Now, it's back to Matt Ginter, Shane Spencer and Ice Williams.

  • At 7:30 AM, Blogger I.M. Forme said…

    hey Cver,
    I'm traveling myself. In Toronto where I discovered they have baseball...and Yankmes fans walk around free too.
    THis season has been a disgrace, that's a good word for it.

  • At 7:20 PM, Anonymous cver said…

    IMFM, nice to hear from you and hope you continue to have a great time in Toronto and a safe trip back. Funny thing is, a couple of weeks ago, I was in Santa Monica and passed by Barney's Beanery and wondered if it was "the place" and now that I have come home and researched it, I found out that it was indeed your "clubhouse". It was a Saturday night - only off by one day, too. Next time in LA, I've gotta try to drop by there. Omar is the disgrace. Many of the Mets players have worked quite hard and I feel quite sorry for some, like Beltran, who have had their healths and careers placed in jeopardy by Disgrace Minaya and his enablers The Wilpons. Incidentally, I suppose you might have heard that Tuesday is "boycott night":

  • At 12:11 PM, Blogger I.M. Forme said…

    wow too bad we missed you. give me warning next time you happen through, and we'll set up the welcome wagon.

    Happy Boycott Night!!


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